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More by JohnB - Living the final years of the Catholic Cover up

JohnB Another week at the Royal Commission and Child Abuse
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The biggest news of the week of course has been the response of the UN to its meeting with representatives of the Holy See. 
After a show bout on morals with the Catholic Church it seemed that only the deluded could remain a part of the fold. never-the-less it seems that a particular type of Catholic cognitive dissonance may play a part in that. Meanwhile the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) took the next appropriate step by drawing attention to failure in the US to reign in the abuse of children and the abuse of trust  rampaging from shore to shore across the country. Expect to hear more from the UNCRC.
Considering that the UNCR spoke with regard to the concordats made by the Holy See/Vatican/Catholic Church/(some other convenient identity) raises the issue of what purchase our Royal Commission can gain from the initiative set by the UNCRC through showing that these concordats are a valid and connected part of the child sexual abuse issue. The UNCRC identified a number of areas as being directly related to the issue of child sexual abuse which to this time have not become an area for investigation by the Royal Commission.
Will the Royal Commission support children and the UNCRC and thus require compliance in Australia from the Catholic Church with the UN directives? Will the Royal Commission make a public statement saying that it supports the UNCRC in its quest for rights and justice for children here in Australia as well as right across the world?
Will the Royal Commission review Australia's Concordat with the Catholic Church?

In a fascinating essay in The Week, Damian Linker explores what has been described as Catholic cognitive dissonance – the way that Catholics appear to be able to overlook the wickedness of their Church and screen out the evil.

They just want to feel good about being a Catholic, and Pope Francis delivers on that front. They want to cheer not jeer and so they don blinkers that permit them to see only the Pope.

But more than that – they don't care what the Church teaches or how ridiculous it is. They simply screen that out as well. They won't be agitating for doctrinal change because it will make absolutely no difference to them – they don't care if the church forbids contraception because they'll use it anyway. They don't care if the church bans abortion because they'll have one if it's pragmatic to do so. And so on.

An example of this can be seen in a film recently released called "Philomena" starring Judi Dench. It tells the story of an Irish woman who, as an unmarried but pregnant young girl was consigned to a Magdalene Asylum. There her child was taken away from her and sold for adoption to rich Americans. She was then kept in slavery for another four years, to pay the nuns back for their "kindness".

As an elderly woman Philomena has never forgotten her stolen child and with the help of a journalist, she goes in search of him. I won't spoil the story – which is true and takes many unexpected twists and turns – but needless to say, it does not show the Catholic Church in a good light. Its cruelty to this woman, and thousands like her, was scandalous.

And yet even so, she refuses to condemn the Church. She refuses to blame the nuns that ruined her life. And when the atheistic journalist rails against the religious fanaticism, she calls him a "feckin' eejit".

So what is the Catholic Church for? How does it maintain its grip in this way, even when it inflicts personal cruelty?

My own thought is simply that the Church has perfected the art of childhood indoctrination. "Cradle Catholics" often find it impossible to let go of their religious "identity". They are wracked with guilt if they are even vaguely critical of the Church, and they become angry and defensive if others are.

That is why the Catholic Church puts so much emphasis on controlling education wherever it can.

Just about every concordat that they have signed with nations around the world gives them the right to control education. They start the process early and they reinforce it ruthlessly. Even in Britain it is acceptable for children in state schools to be made to learn the catechism.

2. Concordats can ensure a never-ending transfer of state funds to the Church

Sometimes the money transfer is justified as compensation for church property nationalised as long as 200 years ago. Concordats can lock in inflation-adjusted payments that cannot be ended unless the Vatican agrees.

Concordats often shift funds to the church by requiring that Catholic schools,  hospitals and other agencies must be paid for by the state. This gives the Church the say over what is taught and what services are offered, without having to pay the tab. A concordat can also help Church agencies get tax exemptions, even for Church-run commercial enterprises. And, despite all the state money flowing in, a concordat can ensure that the finances of the Church are kept secret. Read more

3. Concordats can infringe on human rights

By giving advantages to one religious group, concordats can violate the requirement that all citizens and all religions be treated equally. Occasionally concordats have outlawed divorce, even for non-Catholics. Concordats can also anchor other parts of Canon (or church) Law by stipulating that this is to be used within Church institutions. However, since these also include social agencies, many non-clerics and even non-Catholics may find themselves legally obliged to obey Church rules.  Read more

 Concordat Watch
 If you were to casually and off-handedly dismiss any accusations and therefore dismiss any opportunity to obtain answers to questions as to the veracity of past actions of a commissioner would you see the claim that Canon law has no authority in Australia to be enough to convince command level policing to also dismiss the notion of questioning the operation of Canon laws in the community? It would be a dissonance of some magnitude to think that such a response at the Royal Commission level is a formulated and considered response while for weeks on end it has questioned and reviewed dozens if not hundreds of aspects connected with the day to day operations and dictates of Catholic Canon law in daily operating in the country. It certainly should not require a super sleuth to work that one out.
During the week Justice Peter McClellan spoke on several matters of importance. One of those was when he spoke in regard a different phase of the Royal Commission and the intention to bring in qualified professionals in his quest to answer the "Why Question". Justice McClellan also continues to encourage those he investigates to do some internal reflection as to what they feel will answer the Why Question as well as encouraging them to bring forward their ideas on how the problems can be rectified. Also on the list and getting underway is a review of the impact the Royal Commission is having on those who have survived the childhood abuses the Commission is investigating - a timely response to the increased perception of the need for improvements in client relationship areas together with a deeper understanding of the needs of those they are dealing with.
It is early days yet however we are seeing the beginning of a statistical trend which may go towards answering a large part of the Why Question in that if you swear an oath on the Bible statistically you are more likely to have delayed, deferred, become sidetracked or diverted from firstly identifying criminal acts and secondly in failing to report criminal activities to police; it is beginning to appear that an inability to clearly identify which matters are covered by Church canon laws and which matters are covered by state law. 

Further to that those who swear an oath on the Bible are beginning to show a distinct statistical glitch (as someone once described the sexual abuse of children by Catholic clergy)  in the areas of moral and ethics due it seems to Canonical/religious definitions of criminal activities despite a great deal of thinking on the part of those making having to make these decisions or judgements.
A reader posed the following questions for those who still have a personal relationship with Jesus. The writer states that Jesus was the son of a carpenter and that as any good male children of those times he would have been almost punctilious in his endeavors to please his earthly father through helping out a little in the carpentry shop therefore it should be no big deal for Jesus to give you the recipe for the various stains, fillers, glues and coatings used in carpentry in those days as well as helping anthropologists out by describing the tools and what metals they were made of in those days. Could you also ask him if he supports the UNCRC.
Still on the list of unanswered questions remains the issue of publication of video of the proceedings.  I did ask re this via Twitter at the beginning of the year, the response at the time was that they were thinking about it. It is to be hoped that the Royal Commission shares its thoughts re this as there are many sound and valid reasons for the publication of  each days events. At times the Royal Commission appears to be as remote as the Catholic Church in its thinking and it's communication with stakeholders (I have a morbid appreciation for being known as a stakeholder in this circumstance as it is moments like these that I could believe in a God. Thor.).

Of course the Pope/Vatican/AKA/AKA/... may be right when the Church laments that the UN is infringing on their right to practice their religion no matter how harmful their religion might be to children and society.  Then again we have been told by numerous politicians that the Catholic Church is free to operate in our country provided it abides by our laws - that would probably be enough for most people however for Catholics it seems that it always get to take that one flip more through immediately trumping that with the injunction that God's law (according to their version/interpretation/perception/delusion/...) is the only law and that that law stands above the law of any state. Naturally that includes any Royal Commission though amusingly we have yet to see a religious one threaten the Commission with Hell (NB I have made a huge concession her and further back in that I capitalized a thing of mythology in the way I should capitalize a place name of a location that actually exists - I feel like I have become a bracket fungi :) )) something)as has happened in other countries - that should prove to be an amusing encounter of fantasy meeting the sarcasm of the Chair to the bemusement of onlookers.


cause (someone) to believe something that is not true; fool or tease.
"they have enough psychology to know whether you're shucking them or whether you're being honest"
cause (someone) to believe something that is not true; fool or tease.
"they don't have enough psychology to know whether you're shucking them or whether you're being honest"
Catholic interjection
Slang (used to claim no knowledge of anger, disgust, peremptory rejection, etc., often followed by a pronoun, as you, it or god: which is again followed by mock shock, mock horror and mock outrage.  
We are pattern matching, pattern seeking pattern making creatures of exceptional ability - when we get to put down shit/deceptive/untruthful patterns in childhood they can and will come back to screw up your life.

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"How can anyone believe in a God whose servants abuse children and whose hierarchy protects the abuser?"

Myth #2 - Most sexual abuse of boys is perpetrated by homosexual males.

Pedophiles who molest boys are not expressing a homosexual orientation any more than pedophiles who molest girls are practicing heterosexual behaviors. While many child molesters have gender and/or age preferences, of those who seek out boys, the vast majority are not homosexual. They are pedophiles.

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