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JohnB A conversation with Christopher Chambel candidate for state youth elections into Parliament
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Chris. Perhaps a try at answering the question which was in regards how you anticipate providing choice to children in regards their right to freely choose the religion they wish to follow.
 
Could that mean that they should be provided with a religiously neutral environment until they reach 16 years of age perhaps?
 
How does a child exercise their right to freely choose a religion?
 
Is it the parents right to choose for their children or is it the parents responsibility to protect their children in a religiously neutral environment until they are 16 years of age? 
 
JohnB
 
USER#1-USER#2-SECURITY01 <usersecurity2011@gmail.com>
 
Dear John,

Thanks for yourresponse (written on your website).  I am not publicly endorsed - it's a nomination process for Youth Parliament and is apolitical andelectedmembers aren't "politicians".  They are Young Members ofParliament.  Iencourage you to contact Parliament house and check foryourself.  Ihave outlined my rules to you and told you that I am notformallyendorsed, thus you are required to take this down.  Failure tocomplywill result in legal action.

Have a nice day.
Chris.
 
 
 
USER#1-USER#2-SECURITY01 <usersecurity2011@gmail.com>
 
Chris,

You are a publicly declared candidate for public office - your request has been denied.

rgds

JohnB



On 17/02/2011 7:02 AM, USER#1-USER#2-SECURITY01 wrote: Dear Ken and John Brown,

I, Christopher Chambel request that all content regarding myself is removed from
(http://www.molestedcatholic.com/Christopher-Chambel-candidate) along with elsewhere this has been published.  I will give you the opportunity to voluntary remove all content removed about myself.  If this cannot be done, some form of legal action will have to be considered.

Yours sincerely,
Chris.


 
A conversation with Christopher Chambel - including comments after hedropped out and failed to respond to a message asking him how he wasgoing to ensure freedom of choice for children
 
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Buggered.  First off - this in no means is me causing an argument, but what do you have against Christianity and religion?  Abuse happens all over the world.  The Pastors, etc who join Churches and molest boys/girls are either 1) Satanists turning people against Church this is written in the Book of Satan or they are normal pedophiles who find Church is the easiest target.  I don't really like when I am discriminated for my religion.Christopher Chambel

Buggered. First off - this in no means is me causing an argument, butwhat do you have against Christianity and religion? Abuse happens allover theworld. The Pastors, etc who join Churches and molestboys/girls areeither 1) Satanists turning people against Church this is written in the Book of Satan or they are normal pedophiles who findChurch is theeasiest target. I don't really like when I amdiscriminated for myreligion.

Buggered By-a Priest
Buggered By-a Priest6:48pm Feb 12
Have all the religion you like - simply do not organize it and frighten the children with it. The only thing I have against christianity areitsfailures and its ability to inculcate and indoctrinate peopleintobelieving in a fairy in the sky which I have no problem with exceptwhen it attempts to teach children that this is fact along with thosewhoput forward the words of some scribe rewritten numerous timesthroughout history and put forward as a result of organized religion asbeing fact - more than happy for you to keep your myths of satanism -just don'twant a non-democratic, fairy believing organized religion toplay anypart in the democratic operations of the country


"I" do not frighten people with my religious beliefs, nor do I force people to believe in something they don't want to.  I believe everyone has the right to choose in whichever religion they want - whether that be none such as yourself.  And in regards to you saying the fact that people are forcing others to become a Christian, that is false.  I don't see laws forcing people to go to Church and Kevin Rudd is a Christian.
Christopher Chambel 12:54pm Feb 13
"I" do not frighten people with my religious beliefs, nor do I force people to believe in something they don't want to. I believe everyone has the right to choose in whichever religion they want - whether that benonesuch as yourself. And in regards to you saying the fact that people are forcing others to become a Christian, that is false. I don't seelawsforcing people to go to Church and Kevin Rudd is a Christian.


"I" have never frightened and never will with my religious beliefs.  I have never forced anyone to believe in Christianity either - everyone is equal no matter who they are.  If someone wants to be a Muslim, or have no religion then so be it.  It's there own choice, there own belief. In regards to you saying that people are been forced into religion, that is false.  And not everyone in power would turn Australia into a non-democratic country - you're blowing things out of proportion.  Look at the facts; what's the chance of that happening here in Australia?  Basically none.  For example, Kevin Rudd is a Christian and goes to Church and so does many politicians I know.  Have we become non-democratic?  Do you think because we are Christians we have no right to run the country?  I am running in the state youth elections into Parliament - as a Christian, all I want to do is stand up to child's rights.  But the world can only do so much to protect youths and children.  What do you expect us to do?  Take down all Churches?  That's taking away democracy - yes - sure, I can understand your frustration with many Pastors been pedophiles but realistically the only thing that can be done there is a harder process through the Government that does a thorough check on there history (similar to something they do for people obtaining Security Clearances).
Christopher Chambel 1:04pm Feb 13
"I" have never frightened and never will with my religious beliefs. I have never forced anyone to believe in Christianity either - everyoneisequal no matter who they are. If someone wants to be a Muslim, orhaveno religion then so be it. It's there own choice, there own belief. Inregards to you saying that people are been forced into religion, that is false. And not everyone in power would turn Australia intoanon-democratic country - you're blowing things out of proportion. Lookat the facts; what's the chance of that happening here in Australia? Basically none. For example, Kevin Rudd is a Christian and goestoChurch and so does many politicians I know. Have webecomenon-democratic? Do you think because we are Christians we have no right to run the country? I am running in the state youth electionsintoParliament - as a Christian, all I want to do is stand up tochild'srights. But the world can only do so much to protect youthsandchildren. What do you expect us to do? Take down all Churches? That's taking away democracy - yes - sure, I can understand yourfrustrationwith many Pastors been pedophiles but realistically the onlything thatcan be done there is a harder process through the Governmentthat does a thorough check on there history (similar to something theydo forpeople obtaining Security Clearances).
 
Buggered By-a Priest
Buggered By-a Priest6:57pm Feb 12
btw - you missed including "only in it for the money", "its just a fewbadapples", "the boogey man in the sky will get them","mentallydisturbed", "I am offended", "your reward will come in the next life"and you are only angry because you were repeatedly raped as achild byboth nuns and priests and were denied along with millions ofotherstheir right to justice for 50 or more years" --- oh and "forgivethem so they can do it again" http://www.facebook.com/l/568a9iihxPOBgQwkc4Bng7gAW4Q;www.molestedcatholic.com/Estimating-the-numbers.php - btw2 I feel the same way about all misogynistic child raping, non-democratic religions christian or otherwise.


 What remains of the conversation
 
Deb Williamson
We have politicians watching this group, so please post a comment on what you would like to see for FA's....

    • Deb Williamson Give financial redress to those who have been fighting for years on ofwhattranspired in these hell holes. Really the % who would claim isquitesmall. For the rest of us who never knew that we could do anythingabout it, we got the apology which is not worth the breathe of which itcamefrom. We need better medical health cover, to help us all in ourgrowing older years. Specialist care without having to pay for theirserviceswould be a start. How does everyone else feel what you need?
      Yesterday at 4:05pm ·


    • Deb Williamson Yes Buggered but it's all about what happened...now what do FA's want?Wecan go on forever of what happened can we start concentrating on wantwe need. Thanks for the link it is quite disturbing what has gone ondrugtrials on children etc. :(
      Yesterday at 4:14pm ·

    • Deb Williamson
      A VACCINE TRIALS DOCUMENT
      Commission in dark over vaccine trial documents.
      Hand over vaccine files State and Drug firms told.
      More vaccine trials were kept secret by the state
      Paddy Doyle: We need to know if we were used as guinea pigs
      ...Truth needed on vaccine trials
      VACCINE TRIAL FILES ARE LOCKED UP...this should help you Dianne Cherrie with some info for your group.
      See More
      Yesterday at 4:20pm ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest
      The same as anyone expects. To be treated equal before the law.Thoseinvolved to be held accountable (institutions and individuals)chargedwith the crimes committed.
      Fair and equal compensation. Acknowledgment of the long-term effects on ...individuals and on society.
      Legislation that will deny these institutions the opportunity to abuse againthrough denying them the ability to operate in these areas for a minimum of 100 years.
      See More
      Yesterday at 4:21pm ·

    • Deb Williamson Most of these pieces of scum have either passed or will be dead by thetimeany court can convict them. So if this can never happen and the fair and equal compensation would be for who? Those who have been fightingthisfor years for justice or should every FA be compensated equally?Justtrying to bring some thoughts out on what FA's would like to seehappen.
      Yesterday at 4:29pm ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest
      Many of the individuals may be dead, however the institutions that supported them through their ideologies continue to profit throughprovidingextension of governments services particularly in community and socialservices areas - the bias...es and prejudices of those institutions continue to have unregulated control and input into our society still today.
      Every FA should be entitled to a minimum compensation with the opportunity to be heard re their further needs. No member of the institutions or their religious counterparts should sit on any adjudication panel orredressboard as simply their ideological was instrumental in the pastwhen they failed society and continue to fail society through bringingtheirpolluted ideals back into the restoration and compensation process.
      See More
      Yesterday at 4:49pm ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest re those who have fought for years for justice - these people should be publicly acknowledged and rewarded for their work.
      Yesterday at 4:52pm ·

    • Leigh Ryan
      To educate all Government workers on what FA stands for so that wedonthave to relive who we are when we go to Centrelink eta.When we doend up in Nursing homes we dont want to feel like we are being locked up inplaces that remind of of t...he Insitutions we suffered in as children.A lot were used as guinea pigsas children in these places and it has had a hugh inpact on our healthsoif we do know what was used our dr will know why we are sufferingsomelong term effects now.Ill get back to this as there is so much more iknow I can think off.See More
      22 hours ago ·

    • Bob McGuire you pollies .give us our entitlements -the entiltlements of health careand compensation for our abused lives ,redress is not compensation..its a pay off to shut up and piss off as we dont want to know you..we wantequal compensation ,no matter what colour or race we are ..as we areequal in law so treat us that way ...
      21 hours ago ·

    • Marilyn Ross
      Compensation is the only thing I want from the government.For all the girls thatwere in girls homes I wish them happiness and peace in their lives,youhad to have been there u really did it was so hard at a young age notbeingable to do t...he things others teens could do and u did nothing to deserve beinglockedaway! not to go to a concert have a boyfriend go to a dance nowecouldnt we were locked away I mean Albert Park convent was like amental institution, for instance on cup day the nuns would make who they could usually the suck's dress up in a jockey outfit ride a broom andwhoever won they got a chocie egg so can u imagine ! huh ? sickbitchesthey were think they were into Bondage and dicipline we got thebondage they gave out the dicipline ok night now xx just saying !!See More
      19 hours ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest The churches and religion have nothing of value to offer other than money - they have nothing of moral value to offer save for excuses and blame.
      15 hours ago ·

    • Leigh Ryan SORRY is just a word ACTIONS speak louder.Our scars are deep no-one canseethem.We want to be treated with the respect we deserve.As childrenwewere treated like scum,used and abused in all shapes and forms.Talktous find out from us how we feel how how childhood was taken fromus.Dont put us on the BACKBURNER and pretend this didnt happen.
      15 hours ago ·

    • Marilyn Ross totally agreeLeigh and yes I do want money for all of us not just me what we dont deserveit I bleedin do !!!
      5 hours ago ·

    • Marilyn Ross
      Ãnd another thing they have plenty of money so they just keep putting usoff hoping we will all go away or die ! If cant have money will keeponkeeping on and will defame them as much and often as I can !!!!Thosegirls in Parramatta u hav...e no clue anyone that hasnt been there what THEY the girls endured it was fucking horrendous ! Winnie was bad enough but Parra they beat u sent u to Hay wont even go there they deserve the money first!!!!!!!!!!Parramatta girls first ~~~~~~~~~~~and Hay girls then all theothers inthat order !!! just saying xxSee More
      5 hours ago ·

    • Marilyn Ross And while Im on the subject my children had to put up with the pedopriestTHE FUCKIN'G REV FATHER O'" FUCKING DONNELL from Oakleigh we hadno clue he was a pedo the dog he was !!!!!! just saying x
      5 hours ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest O'Donnell was known to the church as a child abuser in the late 1940s. He wasalso kept active by the church as he brought in huge sums of money tothechurch - this in the recorded words of their sick psychologist SusanSharkey - contact for access to these recordings
      5 hours ago 

    • Marilyn Ross I know all about it have the lot read it all thanks just the same
      5 hours ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest Also known by the corrupt "Independent Commissioner" the corruptPeterO'Callaghan QC from the inception of his polluted commission -onlyreported when he was pressured to do so http://tiny.cc/bsl3q
      5 hours ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest
      Have all the religion you like - simply do not organize it and frighten the children with it. The only thing I have against christianity areitsfailures and its ability to inculcate and indoctrinate peopleintobelieving in a fairy in the... sky which I have no problem with except when it attempts toteachchildren that this is fact along with those who put forward thewords of some scribe rewritten numerous times throughout history and put forward as a result of organized religion as being fact - more thanhappy foryou to keep your myths of satanism - just don't want anon-democratic,fairy believing organized religion to play any part inthe democraticoperations of the countrySee More
      4 hours ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest
      btw - you missed including "only in it for the money", "its just a fewbadapples", "the boogey man in the sky will get them","mentallydisturbed", "I am offended", "your reward will come in the next life"and you are only angry because yo...u were repeatedly raped as a child by both nuns and priests andweredenied along with millions of others their right to justice for 50ormore years" --- oh and "forgive them so they can do it again" http://www.molestedcatholics.com/Estimating-the-numbers.php - btw2 I feel the same way about all misogynistic child raping, non-democratic religions christian or otherwise.See More
      4 hours ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest WTF - do the children of the christian religion have a choice as to which religion they should be brought up in?
      WTF2: Kevin Rudd is a christian - so was Adolph Hitler - both are poor examples of what a human being can be
      4 hours ago ·

    • Leigh Ryan Thank you as we all know these comments are important to all of us.One thing i would like us all to look at is the long term damage that wasdone.Wewant answers and to get them we need to say what we would like to getrather then just SORRY Our chidhood has affected all of us andourfamilies.
      3 hours ago · 

    • Bob McGuire i was RC when family split then that queer bloke billy grahamthroughwater on my 9 year old head and said im a anglican now ..wellreally at that age what could you say ,i wanted to keep some of thatwater tothrow on my teacher and turn him into a rat ...
      about an hour ago ·

    • Deb Williamson Marilyn you want redress in the form of $...what would you find an acceptable amount being reasonable.
      about an hour ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest ‎@Deb agree with the main of your question - struggle on the being reasonable aspect as this makes any response subjective - is there reallyanreasonable response to an unreasonable situation?
      about an hour ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest Perhaps what is an appropriate amount of redress/compensation in your particular circumstance
      about an hour ago 

    • Marilyn Ross Sorry guys dont want to get into any arguments so I will say goodbye now enjoy your day xx
      55 minutes ago ·

    • Leigh Ryan I cant see how anyone could put a price on what we have beenthough.Iwould like to know how a ammount was made for any state who did getit.Walk 1inch in our shoes if you dare and then try and put a priceonus.No-one can do that only us who have been though it and in my casenoammount of $ can fix the wrongs that have been done.
      53 minutes ago ·

    • Buggered By-a Priest ‎@Leigh so true - I feel it also needs to be looked at from apreventionperspective as that is a major desire of many I have spokenwith.Personally I feel that is the first human requirement and thatshouldnot influence in any way on the matter of financial redress.
      40 minutes ago ·
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Dear John,

Thanks for your response (written on your website).  I am not publicly endorsed - it's a nomination process for Youth Parliament and is apolitical and elected members aren't "politicians".  They are Young Members of Parliament.  I encourage you to contact Parliament house and check for yourself.  I have outlined my rules to you and told you that I am not formally endorsed, thus you are required to take this down.  Failure to comply will result in legal action.

Have a nice day.
Chris.


 

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