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RE: coming forward - Cardinal Pell

1/06/2009 12:35 PM

John Usher wrote:
> Dear Mr Brown
> Cardinal Pell has asked me to respond to your email on his behalf.  He
> is presently away from Sydney.  He expresses his sincere regret about
> your abuse by Kevin O'Donnell.  I have referred the matter to Melbourne
> and will ascertain what that Archdiocese is doing to assist you.  Could
> you let me know if your contact with the Archdiocese of Melbourne has
> been unhelpful.
> Yours sincerely
> Fr John Usher
> 133 Liverpool Street
> Sydney   NSW   2000
> Phone:  02 9390 5100
> Fax:  02 9261 8312
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1/06/2009 6:00 PM

Thankyou John,

Yes I have had contact with the Melbourne Archdiocese - I initiated that some 5 or 6 years ago. My last direct communication from the Commission indicated that it was having some difficulty in regards the words live and lived in the sense that a child can live at more than one place as many do today when they have to share themselves between separated parents. Apart from the fact that an understanding of these words is entirely irrelevant it seems the Commissioner holds a different view.

Yes it has been entirely unhelpful and has repeatedly displayed little understanding of what is an appropriate manner in which to progress my claim.

John, I have made many attempts at establishing a line of communication with responsible entities within the Church and have for a number of reasons failed to progress in that regard.

I would like to thank you for your response and am hopeful that our communication here can be a starting point in regards establishing an appropriate line of communication.



1/06/2009 10:05 PM

Hi All,

Great news. We have been contacted by Fr. John Usher. John is the Chancellor at the Sydney Archdiocese.

We have achieved our first major goal in making an appropriate contact with the church. I have replied to John as you will see below.  I have pasted his communication and my initial response. I considered the disclaimer and some of the legal implications able to be read into that and felt that should not get in the way of the healing our whole world needs; besides we like ours better.

I feel that if we can say to each other in this early communication that we feel we can begin from a point of mutual acknowledgment.

At this point in time I feel that it would be reasonable to say that, many would feel that if the Church were to acknowledge the individual and the global harm which has resulted from this crisis and if those of us acknowledged that members of clergy were as often and possibly more often the victims of a generational problem which had come along with the church throughout its history - they, just as we were, were born into the situation and those of us who call ourselves victims should acknowledge that the abuses were similar to both clergy and laity -that is our understanding of how we became entrenched in such a prolonged cover-up and the dysfunctional results of that.

There is a belief by many that the Church has no evil intention or master-plan for world domination and many feel it simply has inability in this area and becomes dysfunctional whenever it delves into those areas in the same way many of us understand that as we learned to survive and grow. Our experience has shown us that the conversation when it turns to God is a very personal one with many putting God a little before the beginning of evolution as for them God would have been the only one smart enough to kick it off as was necessary for so many of us just so we could survive and that sits comfortable for many of us. It is our hope and our intention to simply put forward the necessity of what we refer to as September 1.

To us here in Australia September 1 is our new Spring and we hope to bring with this new spring the beginning of healing for all of us,molested Catholics and those of all religions molested due to the many global dysfunctions, molested believers and non-believers - molested to such a degree that the Governments of each of our countries are unable to operate appropriately and fairly on behalf of all of its citizens.

We believe that to begin that process of healing we need to set a mutual date from where we can jointly come together to plan the repair of our world so that we can look forward rather than backwards at the most recent horror or a reminder of past horrors. We feel it is appropriate that victims should come together with both Church and State to plan an implementation so our governments can build appropriately for our future. We believe we deserve our place at that table as there are no better educated minds in regards the prevention and survival of sexual abuse than those who have both prevented and survived; we feel strongly that a broken social system is not a suitable environment in which to raise children simply because a healthy and well adjusted child requires a healthy and well adjusted environment in which to peacefully and successfully nurture our children and through doing so we can be assured of their success. Our current environment is not a healthy one as we all know and so it is our hope that the Catholic and other churches as well as our Government will sit with us and communicate in an appropriate manner in order that we ensure the safety and the future of our children and our society.

I have taken the liberty of forwarding this our communication to the Premiers, the Prime Minister and others from our governments as a demand from those of us who have been adversely affected through their failures as a result of this soon to be past global crisis so that they too can provide to us the people an appropriate form of Government so that each of us who has a responsibility will have an equal opportunity to have genuine and direct input in their governance rather than the current atrocious systems and failing health and policing we currently have. There is an opportunity to take genuine advantage of the Internet and the ability to create a much brighter future via a truly transparent form of government through the use of currently available open source technologies which our children already understand better than us.

I appreciate this opportunity to thank Benedict for his strength and leadership through speaking to the world on this issue and through making his request for all to come forward to assist in an opportunity to repair and heal all in our society and to make it truly a better place for our children. On behalf of the few following names we ask that you forward this our request and to offer our hand to ask him to join with us to help bring our government to the table so we can begin the tasks of restoration for us all,  simply for the sake of our children.

The responsibility we feel towards our children and the children of others has helped us to survive and to bring this email forward in   that no more harm will come to children and we hope that you, the Catholic and other Churches will join with us and our government in planning a real future for our governments to jointly implement with us on behalf of all of our children.

There are many names which share and equal place below, a very few very special to me people have have been acknowledged on web site and we hope we can add your name and many others in this initiative.




September 1, 2009

The Prime Minister of Australia on Islamic teachings on wife beating and rape.

"Under no circumstances is sexual violence permissible or acceptable in Australia - under no circumstances."

"Australia will not tolerate these sort of remarks. They don't belong in modern Australia, and he should stand up, repudiate them and apologise."

The Prime Minister of Australia on Catholocism and children sexually abused and raped by Catholic clergy.

"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I don’t stand outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave..."

Australia does not tolerate these sort of remarks. They don't belong in modern Australia, and the Prime Minister should stand up, repudiate them and apologise.

There is no excuse for sexual abuse according to our law and government.

We are told we are all equal before the law.

The exceptions are found when you have been sexually abused by Catholic clergy.

"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I don’t stand outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave..."

Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister of Australia, 17 July 2008.

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This is perhaps the most horrific act of abandonment perpetrated against the children of a specific religion by an Australian head of State and is recorded in our history for perpetuity as being made by Kevin Rudd on 17 July 2008, when he spoke in regards those affected by the sexual abuses carried out by Catholic clergy.


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